Kristina O'Neill spent more than a decade at The Wall Street Journal as the editor-in-chief of WSJ. Magazine.

Then, in 2023, she got fired. The financial implications were immediate: a severance cushion, but no guarantee of what would come next in a media industry with few opportunities at her level.

Instead, she and Laura Brown turned the experience into the bestselling book All the Cool Girls Get Fired, and a podcast built on the same premise. Kristina talks with Chris Hill about: 

• A childhood shopping trip that still shapes how she spends money as an adult 

• The “unicorn” college she couldn’t resist

• Why she decided to stop hiding the fact that she got fired 

• The money lesson she learned from covering the luxury industry