Chris Hill talks with Nick Wolny, personal finance writer and author of Money Proud, about the emotional side of money—why avoidance is so common, how early experiences shape financial behavior, and what actually helps people face their finances without shame. They also discuss Nick’s initial career path in music, following where "money is moving", as well as:

• Closing the Wealth Gap - Why certain communities fall behind on savings and how "service journalism" can spark better financial habits.

• The Pivot - How to identify where the money is moving in the economy and adapt your skillset to higher-paying industries.

• Business Acumen vs. Marketing Hype - Lessons learned from the "dangling carrot" of expensive online courses and how to avoid being “in the red" in your first year of business.

• Illegal Money - The thrilling documentary TV series (currently streaming on YouTube) that looks at money through the lens of organized crime.